AT A REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HELD IN AND FOR GADSDEN COUNTY, FLORIDA ON OCTOBER 16, 2012, AT 9:00 A.M., THE FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HAD, VIZ.

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INVOCATION, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND ROLL CALL Chair Taylor called the meeting to order at 9:00
AMENDMENTS AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA Pull # 1 Chair called to approve
AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS AND APPEARANCES
1.	Proposed Lease of County Property on Kemp Road Item 1 pulled
CLERK OF COURTS
2.	Courthouse Anniversary Approaching 100 year anniversary Comm. Holt asked if funds available Nicholas Thomas responded Mr. Collins Mr. Thomas Chair Taylor
3.	PRESENTATION OF COUNTY FINANCE AND COUNTY CLERK ISSUES
CONSENT
4.	RATIFICATION OF APPROVAL TO PAY COUNTY BILLS
5.	SMALL COUNTY OUTREACH PROGRAM AGREEMENT (SCOP) – Florida Department of Transportation Chair Taylor asked questions Chad
6.	SMALL COUNTY ROAD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AGREEMENT (SCRAP) – Florida Department of Transportation
7.	APPROVAL TO ACCEPT THE 2012-2013 MUTUAL AID OPERATIONS PLAN BETWEEN THE FLORIDA DEPARTNMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES, FLORIDA FOREST SERVICE AND GADSDEN COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE ANNUAL FORESTRY REPORT AND OPERATING PLAN
8.	APPROVAL OF SMALL COUNTY CONSOLIDATED GRANT AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION (DEP) AND AUTHORIZE CHAIRPERSON TO EXECUTE Added 8A Quincy Shuttle Chair Taylor responded City Manager appeared before the Board Reduced hours 7:30 – 2:30 County do $18,000, City $18,000 Also want to look at overall gas prices Fair allocation to this group of riders Chair Taylor asked for comments Croley asked if talked to Star Metro Mr. McLean Croley McLean Croley McLean Croley McLean Croley asked Mr. Lawson questions when budgeted, intended to be matching money. Lawson responded. Made quite clear was Croley Comm. Holt Morgan Taylor Lawson responded Holt responded chances, Taylor really need $42,000 because of what get from entitlement, dollars not cut Holt asked Taylor responded wanted them here this morning, Comm. Morgan I agree with Croley in respect to dollars funded, Gadsden Express City of Quincy put logical $18,000 We should support City match that Also thing in 90 day time frame have plan in place if doesn’t work out Taylor Croley Your source of info may be different. Mine work with Star Metro, seem quite different we get on the Gadsden Express, Quincy Shuttle funding available. I agree with Comm Holt, here is time we need documentation where $ comes from. We have opportunity to get grant, opportunity to expand to Gretna, Havana,Comm. Holt I agree Holt want info here have no problem with $18,000 Am interested to make sure get to work, school in Tall. Think good plan. We give it a good shot We need to apply for $ Have no-one Taylor McLean Taylor Lamb all speculation, nothing in hand, not enough $ to do what needs to be done We don’t need to go out Taylor Thornton Williams appeared before the board. We kept the service in place with no contract. Shortfall I’m not sure how many months, willing to work over next few months. We have to have Ask to have vote for this month. Croley asked Did contract state Mr. Williams responded That what’s been in contract. Croley Shawn Mitchell, ridership. Monthly bill, varies month to month Taylor Morgan Taylor total costs plus ridership fee. Both transits mentioned, Shuttle and Express not just Shuttle What has been normal cost per year Lawson responded Mr. Matheny appeared thought had been $9200 Taylor Matheny responded We don’t know what Holt easy to work out. We put in $18000 City puts in Motion Holt/Taylor Croley no
ITEMS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION
CITIZENS REQUESTING TO BE HEARD ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
GENERAL BUSINESS
9.	GADSDEN COUNTY INDIGENT CARE HEALTH PLAN Mr. Lawson, here to present plan funds available Utilize funds. Howard McKinnon, Chair of Gadsden County Health Counsel Fred Dudley McKinnon, asked to get together Joint meeting have worked diligently Would like to make that point Set good process in place people have vetted and put into This recommendation certainly hold $ used for indigent care. Mr. Dudley. Interesting process We actually viewed mobile unit and talked about shering costs so can provide mobile service. We came to this plan only have $286,000 when gone, gone. We chose not to invest in equipt. Staffing, put all $ into indigent health care in county. Bad news no more $ when gone. Hope you invite us back. Some advocate McKinnon introduce Eric Kissler, Joey Anderson, Arrie Battle, Good news, we have applications, if approved today ready to go this afternoon. At point, lot of great ideas, good group in county. We have had relatives, one doctor’s visit First question that it fulfilled, covered citizens Plan will give Medicaid rate for doctor visits. Eligibility default, one group had in place. Go strictly to health care . Great thing keeps out of emergency room, out of ambulances, goint o doctor Important part giving human right of health care to citizens. Basically looking. If make mortgage payment, keep job, Sad cases, living or dieing. Plan we came up with. Help doctors. Think great program, is short term, best part, can start here and now. Lamb After funds what then Kissler limited fund in process of getting to doctors offices, different options available. Education campaign. One of reasons Lamb- Kissler new program specific pot Lamb Kissler Lamb Kissler cost of Lamb any funds used for administrative costs Kissler yes Holt Quick, give skinny on this Kissler We will have time where physicians can come over, fax in when person comes need ID, couple of forms other way, preapproved fill out paperwork, in packet Holt no problem, locations Croley I applaud, thank you. Senator Dudley Dudley Croley what saying is, I have gotten infor Hospital board did support plan until Dudley, don’t know if true or not. Just met new administrator for first time. We approved this plan. Wasn’t aware, did not come through working group. Door always open, Can tell you hi Croley Clerk, money is from ½ cent indigent sales tax. Most $ diverted away. Portion left split between CRMC & health dept. 4 that came in , not used. We think should be used for indigent care. This was indigient care ordinance. Why they have strong interest in $ Croley Clerk several pots of money this is ½ cent indigent sale tax Why specifically telling what $ can be used for Taylor Morgan – did want to mention individuals volunteered how long and how relates to indigent care plan. Unspent funds that Judge allocated are those remaining dollars available, however atty indicated we need to revisit Taylor Morgan is this something that is short term expenditure rather than long term Where funds come from Question is this recommendation, solution, is this best use of funds. McKinnon This is best use of funds, limited. Reason it does, will address very important need of citizens. Working group vetted this. Took while. Discussed same issues. Best way to spend money, know will run out will do lot of good for lot of people Morgan McKinnon Kissler is deman and usage, around 6-9 months. Morgan move ffor approval Lamb funds used for whoe of Gadsden county McKinnon Lamb McKinnon Quite a deal, appreciate health department diving Lamb McKinnon Holt offering of service also one point ½ indigent tax continues to help who cant help themselves. Look Taylor I hear majority want to make statement. Things to consider. We come back and discuss between 2 entities. Last meeting, more services. Bring in more specialists, $ stay here in county. That concept more long term than 6-9 months. Providing indigent care important. Hate to get started on program and each year looking for $. Looking to be fiscally smart, business smart. How to fund. Get more specialists here, Want you to understand, 9 months verse Had to voice opinion. Morgan valid concern why asked question Move for approval Holt second Vote 4-1 Taylor opposed Holt Taylor citizens voiced opinion. Thought to open hospital. Citizens upon voting thought was to open hospital Holt Taylor Lawson. Added 9-A CRMC would get $ back. Since that time and reason added, time sensitive issue. $35,124 2011-2012 CRMC wants to take advantage. However obligation from county won’t exceed Ask to approve Taylor Morgan move motion Minnis Taylor Holt CRMC couldn’t assure $ used in Gadsden County. If use poor population, $ used in Gadsden County, is tht in contract tht funds used in contract. Minnis Holt Ronnie Midget, to answer, goes into Medicaid , matching $. There is large Medicaid rate in Gadsden County, does go toward Holt my concern. We need $ to come back to Gadsden County. That’s what we need to do. We ned funds here Midget Goes into same pot. Increasing contributions bigger bang for buck. Holt Midget larger percentage of indigent care. Taylor Brian Cook, CEO legal, IT, if stand alone campus, we absorb that It does go into one pot but goes to cover Holt reason brought up was how we covered. Build out 2 wings help cover costs. We didn’t do what we were suppose to. Get $ to stay here. Cook make sure Board clear Holt Taylor Holt Morgan/Lamb 4-1 to approve - Holt opposed Taylor asked Attorney if don’t mind would like to yield to Sheriff. Let come up and then determine if item that needs Holt amend agenda Minnis Holt Taylor Morgan Taylor Morgan Taylor Morgan Minnis treated as late submission not agenda, treating as citizen Morgan Taylor Morgan Sheriff Young here had one-sided conversation about jail. Things going on, need to bring before you Re-entry program, don’t know what Board decided about jail, This has been a long-term discussion about jail. We need to decide, indigent ½ cent also have one for jail. History of jail, probably one of worst in State. Have done bet to deal with it. 5 years ago, little over $800,000, jail doors, other things gone up. Jail problems still there, population still there. Do best to keep people out have no control. Having one-sided conversation don’t appreciate Morgan Chair Morgan Taylor Lamb Taylor Croley surely can ask questions. I Croley Taylor Croley Holt Sheriff Taylor go to Administrator Our procedure, lets stay within our quarters. Sheriff Lawson Taylor Morgan have requested discussion put on agenda after election. Taylor Young Taylor Holt
10.	AGREEMENT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FY 2012-2013
11.	RECONSIDERATION OF ORIGINAL FUNDING REQUEST Lawson, Item 11 considered now. Jack Peacock appeared, asked only to reconsider fully funding Time always right to do what right. Simply asking to do what right for people struggling Currently less than 1/10 of 1% for economic development. Last year in securing one of largest, we fought every single day to do what right. Job count sent from We understand those in county who want things to remain as are and have been. However, agriculture alone not produce. No misunderstanding out opportunities. Bottom line, willing to invest. Not pay but invest. Out organization proved can go distance. Moving forward or falling backwards. Who better to win game. In closing, take stand to jump in and partner without pretext for Gadsden County Fully fund ecomonic Thank you Would like to refer Taylor Peacock Taylor Lamb talking concern in economic develop. Support Chamber fully. We need to partner with Chamber. Have no problem in offering motion Taylor Croley can’t vote on motion but can comment. No other alternative. Continue to advocate in community. Those there that agree this is only . Keep open in future. Always opportunity to do better. My silence should never be interpreted As member of chamber, I can’t vote but appreciate Taylor Holt Don’t see plan before me. Not vote because no plan. This Board should have set with Chamber. We should have come together in plan. Don’t care what said, we spending citizens money. Have not set down with plan. Have to say want textile company here, boot company there. I like. Not my money. What going in IGA building, what going in IGA in Chattahoochee. Putting $ in plan we have no input. If you vote for this, be wrong. What is development projections. Hamber has not brought to us. What building What’s stopping at I-10. Gentleman wanted to put. People fought liquor store . Across state line We can sing . We must have some type product to say. What’s going to be on map. The railroad. She has approval for largest port. CSX coming in with 2 way rail. They have to come through Gadsden County. Talked with representative with CSX. We’re losing again. Totally upset about this. People These 2 boards should have been together long time ago. This board and Chamber, I fully intend this County better come together and provide jobs. No programs to keep out of jail. Loosing land because of no jobs. Get off soapbox. Taylor Holt Peacock Holt David Gardner appeared. Being last budget being finished. Around $10,000 Holt we’ve already given $6500. Peacock Taylor Pecock – Don’t think somehow pump has to be primed. If businesses know if put in street, We need to look at reports. Very detailed. Look at results. Results are each and evey. How often happen. Holt Taylor Holt Am saying we have to have plan Peacock Holt disclosure form signed every day. Peacock Holt Peacock Holt They have to do same thing Peacock here this isn’t easy. Not up to us to make decision Taylor Morgan appreciate remarks. Spot on. I would be remised if didn’t say Due to fact chamber has successfully provided Solar opportunity to us. The have been devoted to improve situation in Gadsden County. I would fully support. Other thing, appreciate Croley, sounds like fully support Put yourself, remove as member and can support. Taylor. This has been talked about . Must field phone call at least 5-10 times weel. It is extraordinarily Do we have right mechanism to make work. If history would Will only take minite. First election with City of Quincy Quincy board alwas was 3-2 vote. More folks today than yesterday out looking for work. I’m at show me stage now. Yes National Solar did on Here again, when walk out front door don’t see them. Concerned. If motion is fully supported To increase it filling to . I will assure you within the next year if nothing produced. You will get zero I will not continue to invest. I looked at contract If BASF stays open, At this point, let’s bring to close. Comm. Lamb Morgan Your comments dead on I look back on all non-profit I don’t support full funding. 3% cut, very fair across Lamb what % looking at Taylor willing to go to $75000. Put 3% back to non-profit. Willing to go Croley taylor telling you where I am If can’t Minnis has to be brought back as amendment Holt Lawson any issue today will have to identify funding to cover. Taylor Croley Morgan made comment to resign to put myself in position to vote. Was specifically warned by attorneys with ethics commission. It is not for me to resign so can vote. Has a contract with this board. It is contract with Morgan Spoke with department No issue. Can’t just resign Absolutely Taylor Holt 2 went to jail. Commissioners, called resign to vote. What I would like to say, forget everything else said before. Increase amount of $ without contract. Why do that. Unheard of. Please write down. Knitting Morgan Holt You should not give $ unless agree to do something. $ belongs to citizen. Taylor Morgan How can someone expect to put forth agree Holt means don’t give Morgan Taylor I am still at point to increase would like to see $ put back in. Can not vote to increase until have Economic development. Rare statement, I agree with Comm. Holt. We do need plan. We should have had something. Had plan or got request to agenda meeting. All stakeholders. So, move on. Motion Lamb Morgan Taylor Motion Lamb/Morgan, Holt opposed, Croley abstained. Not passed Morgan Taylor Holt Taylor Holt Taylor Holt give citizens opportunity David Gardner, chamber board is in process of reviewing. Comprehensive economic development. More than happy to work with county. Here is full comp plan more than happy to present Taylor Garnder Taylor Motion & second pull item to re-agenda 4-1 to have tables.
12.	BITE ME BAKERY TREATS, ANGEL JOHNSON – REQUEST TO BUILD A COMMERCIAL BAKERY IN AGRICULTERAL 2 (AG2) Bite Me Bakery Treats Mr. Matheny coming forth to Ms. Johnson tried diligently to build commercial kitchen sell sweets, pastries. Our comp plan does not allow. Is in Comp 2. Exhausted all Bring to board if worthy Let Mr. Matheny give more information. Taylor, Excuse me Matheny structure in back yard. She’s not, she would be able to have home occupation, up to 25% of space. Great example, little bakery inside house. She would qualify if can be done at house. Have dogs in house, can’t have business and have animals in house. We’ve helped people before. Also to construct breezeway one Very generous to call one residence. What like to do open shed in back. Certain distance. As administrator said, she kept asking we kept saying no. She asked to be heard. Taylor is she hear? Angel Johnson appeared. Taylor give full name Angel 1675 Bassett Road Build 20 x 20 building. House commercial kitchen, bake sell wholesale to restaurants. Can’t house commercial space needed in personal kitchen. Under state cottage, commercially can’t. Taylor 2 items Johnson commercial kitchen can’t no spae to do commercially As Mr. Johnson If put breezeway breaks structure Taylor your concept for Matheny- breezeway to technically connect unit make it one house Don’t know if have talked with health department Taylor let’s have some round table discussion Morgan can you hear me Taylor yes Morgan Croley whose district Holt couple of questions Concerns, 1 is c Johnson Holt Johnson wedding cakes no license Holt concerned about health Johnson Holt Johnson Holt special assessment Matheny Holt Matheny Holt consider at 6:00 meeting. Needs to be agenda community Johnson ultimate goal is to move into town on square Holt Johnson Holt Matheny not cheap, advertising. Couple of $1000 Holt may need to come back Look at being fair ac Johnson, no traffic generated from this. I will bake, I will either ship or deliver Holt Croley thank you Mr. Mrs. Johnson. My questions, Mr. Johnson, matter of breezeway connection actually prohibit baking in 20 x 20 Johnson if defined by structure Croley Johnson Croley everyone familiar with Nicholson house. When first put into operation, breezeway connected. No different It would seem like to me, not so much what do but how. Can solve problem create extra burden. Get, do breezeway Nicholson House zoned ag2 Any additional expense. Worked for others. What done for one, done for all. Would be direction Johnsons thank you Taylor request to build. Holt deny come back with Taylor Matheny happy to help Taylor Holt move to deny, lamb seconded
13.	DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE FUNDING OPTIONS FOR THE GADSDEN EXPRESS AND QUINCY SHUTTLE Moved to Item 8A 13A Quail Roost and barineau Ames- Minnis discussion actual amount of Question regarding fee, research from legal Are instanes people have bought into special assessment. From legal point of view, would provide We were asked to bring info forward if waive collection or move forward. We have contacted Government Services Group, get back on board. Taylor Morgan asked to have because of this issue closing fell through These roads are now county roads. If possible from legal standpoint. I have heard lots of discussion. Change of ownership, how to collect assessement. Taylor question to Ms. Minnis Let’s get Minnis suggestion one recommendation option because ordinane does not mandate do special assessment Board can waive. Am in process make method for assessment. One Taylor is more to it so Should be agenda this item, take it up an Minnis legal point of view, nothing Motion to waive special assessment process Is issue tha may come up with other roads. Public has opportunity to Taylor Morgan Taylor Croley want to understand, if same letter from Mr. James Folds, this motion is to waive all property Morgan Croley Morgan Croley Morgan I understand your position. Unfortunately put in this position in 2004. Dealing with different owners. Easiest Croley may not be right way to deal. Folks that put in position was because of poor legal advice never happened if had sould legal advise. See Tax Collector Taylor Dale Summerford appeared before Board. I was involved 3-4 years ago in changing way to collect assessment. Very technical and have to follow law. Board took steps. What happened in 2010, Government Services realized problem. Cannot allow property to opt out of process. Ames-Barineau stopped. Still received Comm. Croley exactly right. This board has tried to correct siguation. We were moving in right direction. In order to get in tax bill, got to tell property owners no, you’ve got to pay. QR little different. QR met agreed to pay. I thik original intend of Board, the paving costs went up. Comm. Lamb didn’t think because of delay, Comm. Morgan is right mistakes made, may be in County’s best interest. The document that Attorney Minnis’ firm did was excellent. Just hear to share with you, my take. Taylor Holt not in favor of waiving. They agreed. They need to pay. I went out with R&B director. They told us that they wanted to do. If you say do something, just do it. Ann Sherman Taylor Sherman, for record QR not seeking not to pay. Number County provided to QR as our share was $38,238, this Board approved All we are asking that Board honor dollar amount. Chair Taylor , QR was on agenda, QR residents just about filled this room. Again, we’re not aking not to ass Taylor Holt Sherman Taylor Sherman Taylor, Mr. Lawson, original amount has now increased to what or has it increased. Lawson Taylor Sherman Taylor Sherman making comment on what I thought Attorney said. Taylor Minnis this was issue that specifically came up with Wanted to verify that the board did not want to revise their request. Costs went up. Just technical point of view To present Board with complete packet If Board wants to stay with original amount can do so under their ordeinance. Taylor Holt no way should pay for what not agreed to. “Buyer beware”
14.	REQUEST APPROVAL TO DONATE SURPLUS MEDICAL EQUIPMENT TO THE GADSDEN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT
15.	RENEWAL OF CONTRACT FOR STATE LOBBYING SERVICES
16.	CONSIDERATION OF ROBERT PRESNELL’S SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND PROPOSED CONTRACT FOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR POSITION
17.	NATIONAL SOLAR UPDATE
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR
18.	UPDATE ON BOARD REQUESTS
COUNTY ATTORNEY
19.	UPDATE ON VARIOUS ISSUES
DISCUSSION ITEMS BY COMMISSIONERS
20.	COMMISSIONER LAMB, DISTRICT 1 – COUNTY CONCERNS
	COMMISSIONER CROLEY, DISTRICT 2 – REPORT AND DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC ISSUES AND CONCERNS PERTAINING TO COMMISSION TWO AND GADSDEN COUNTY Make couple of reports not get into lot of details for sake of time, if work with administrator’s office, becomes lot easier to Was workshop with CRTPA workshop had to do with future funding Many not understanding. Kind of separate deal. You must understand and appreciate, is going to be allocating money and again comes back to collective roads, part of state road system. Very important, need better data collection, known as GIS system, county can start collecting . we need sometime. Last point, Quincy by-pass
	COMMISSIONER HOLT – DISTRICT 4 – COUNTY CONCERNS
	COMMISSIONER MORGAN, VICE CHAIRMAN, DISTRICT 3 – DISTRICT CONCERNS
	COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, CHAIRPERSON, DISTRICT 5 – NO ITEMS
MOTION TO ADJOURN
RECEIPT AND FILE
NOVEMBER MEETING(S) -November 8, 2012, Regular Meeting, 6:00 p.m. -November 20, 2012, Regular Meeting, 6:00 p.m.